THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

WHY HASN'T EUGENICS WORKED? | 2007-08-18

white trash and niggers are the same so what does it matter? Lazy and stupid in any race is lazy and stupid.

-- Mark

ME:

Ah,yes, what does it matter what a person's race is if he works hard and is clean?

This is where I came in.

Every Great Civilization before the West let the top men have more women and more children.

Their ruins lie there. What happened?

Classiim was the hallmark of every civilization, yet only ONE factor ever actualy determined whether they fell permanently or went on: The color of the skin.

The color of the skin.

The color of the skin.

The color of the skin.

I have no idea WHY this is the case. What is important is not your own frustrations with trash. What is important is not your Work Ethic. What is important is the color of the skin.

All Experts disagree with this. All Fashionable Opinion disagrees with this. But experts and Fashionable Opinion are wrong as regularly as colored societies happen to go downhill and stay there.

I made several points in pieces here. All of them were ignored so everybody could have their period and bitch about white trash.

Maybe our job is done here. I am beginning to feel that way, and I'm too tired to play squabble.

I have had teams I worked hard with drop me before. I have had hundreds of comrades drift off into their own never-never lands before.

I am thinking about closing this blog down for a week, with no comment approvals or any more of my own unread crap, so I can think about whether this phase of my life is over. I almost did that tonight. Once I do, it's done.

COMMENTS (17)

#1 Z | 2007-08-18 04:30

If you do stop, where will the seminar take place? We still have much to learn from you. What about your students?

#2 Lord Nelson | 2007-08-18 06:34

Even if you see setbacks, the ideas started by yourself on this blog are making a positive impact on the outside world were it matters.

Take a rest if you want, but I think it would be crazy to stop BUGS.

For the last 40 plus years there has been a deep and organized effort to ethnically cleanse (GENOCIDE)the White race through immigration and assimilation.

We should be ATTACKING the architects and unwitting disciples of this movement.

"Africa for the Africans, Asia for the Asians, White countries for everybody"

#3 Hardric | 2007-08-18 09:40

Let me weigh in on the value of BUGS. I regard BUGS as the <b>#1</b> place on the web for this discussion. I don't know of anywhere else where they are even close.

Don't let a little road bump slow you down. Lord Nelson is exactly right. Believe me, a whole lot of attention is being paid to what you say, and right now you are the one who says it best.

#4 danerebor | 2007-08-18 09:46

What does 'white trash' really mean? Hicks? Poor white people? White people you don't like? I'd take hicks and/or poor white people any day over non-whites. Even the poorest, most rustic whites have core ethics and a sense of values far beyond what most non-whites have, no matter what class they're in.

#5 Hardric | 2007-08-18 10:34

For clarification, this statement:

Anonymous <i>white trash and niggers are the same so what does it matter? Lazy and stupid in any race is lazy and stupid.</i>

Was authored by Mark. Anonymous said the opposite.

#6 AFKAN | 2007-08-18 10:58

in reply to Bob:

I have been reading, slowly, on epigenetics, with the realization that, of all RACES on the planet, all Cultures, all social orders, only the WHITE RACE makes the world a better place for all of "Mankind."

Win, lose, or draw, the WHITE RACE is the only RACE that makes a positive difference. I made reference in another post to the Chinese government creating a computer game where the players learn from the Confucian Analects, and kill corrupt officials.

The only thing that has changed in China is electricity; the Asiatic Hive Mind moves today in the same lock-step as it did under the Khanate.

My anger at White Nationalism/Western Nationalism comes from several sources, but the foundation is the unwillingness of our people to even admit to something positive about our RACE, and organize among RACIAL lines, to any degree whatsoever.

And - this is what wins First Prize - EVERY TIME we have tried, the organization Collapsed the moment it gained substantial momentum. The capital "C" in "Collapse" is there to draw attention to one fact - the Collapse was virtually total. Sure, a hollow shell might have been standing for a while, but only because it was of some small use to someone. The shell was no longer attached to a greater Ideal than making money for the owners.

I was amazed when I was helping my (then very small) nephews to learn to talk, and to read. They didn't know it could not be done, they wanted to do it, it was fun to them, and it was fun for all.

Our Ancestors faced far greater hardships than we ever have.

Yet, when you read their writings, they accepted this, and worked to make their small part of the world a little better place.

My concern is not with biological eugenics. That will take care of itself, if not in my lifetime, then certainly in my nephew's.

My concern is with SOCIAL Eugenics.

My concern is with the adoption of deliberately dysgenic policies at all levels of government, enthusiastically encouraged by a generation that cheers - CHEERS! - when Clinton told them that White People will be a MINORITY in the near future...

THAT is why I reread Burnham's "Suicide of the West," and THAT is why I reread Yockey, and Spengler.

I think I see what has gone wrong.

I can place it to a year - 1964, the adoption of wide-spread color tv - an event - 1968 Democratic National Convention - and a year where all of the indicia of social greatness slipped into reverse - 1973.

One decade, and the intellectual foundations laid for most of a century took fruit and blossomed with hothouse rapidity, as our Children fell victim to the First Virtual Reality, AND adopted the triumph of "Equality" over Greatness.

Since then, bluntly, it has been one sign of the Collapse after another, and the resson, in large part, is because we were reasonable with the unreasonable, rational with the irrational, and willing to "negotiate" with people we should have ground under our boots, all in the name of "tolerance."

These traps were set in play more than a century earlier, by our implacable RACIAL Enemies, the Jews. Remember, JUDAISM IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF CHRISTIANITY.

The Muscular Christianity of men like Brigham Young, and President Theodore Roosevelt, had nothing whatsoever to do with "tolerance," or "compassion," or being "nonjudgmental."

Christianity, the spiritual wellspring of our Creative nature, has become perverted into JUDEO-Christianity, and is becoming Gaia Worship in all but name, and has become, simply the "Religion" of "EQUALITY."

So, the Structures of Civilization that made it possible for us to make it this far are actively scorned, and perverted, and the Culture that derives from this resembles nothing so much as the Mob burning the last of the furniture, the last of the books, to keep warm for five more minutes.

Marriage has been scorned, by women, most of all, and the one Institution that was designed to weather all difficulties for a Family, while providing a place of safety, training, and grooming for the Children - the FUTURE - is mocked, and reduced to simply a man providing money for his Family, whether he is there, or not.

I have made a point that no one wants to discuss - not here, not on VNN, no where - that I think is of such importance it should be made into a bumper sticker and placed on all cars in America.

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More than HALF of the Adult population in America is on prescription tranquilizers.

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More than HALF of the Adult population in America literally can not handle the disconnect between what their Minds have been told is true, and what their senses tell them.

They also can not accept the Anger this leads to, and use tranquilizers to shut down the Mind, and deny the Anger, while using other forms of tranquilizers - food, television - to still the small, quiet Voice Within that reminds them of their RACIAL Greatness, and their DUTY to that RACIAL Purpose.

Biological eugenics is one thing; social dysgenics, quite another.

Our Society was implicitly based on SOCIAL EUGENICS, and THAT is the one thing all of our Ancestors took for granted, and we mock, and scorn.

The Children of the West have openly scorned and mocked the VALUES that carried their Ancestors across oceans, and continents, Building a better world wherever they went.

The Children of the West have adopted the values their hereditary RACIAL Enemies, the Asiatic Hive Consciousness, the Jews, chose for them; what could be simpler than to "share equally" with their equal brothers and sisters?

The Cultural FORCE within our Souls was strong enough to push these attempts at institutionalizing mediocrity back, UNTIL the generation raised on color television accepted THEIR Dreams, as OUR Dreams, even skipping the prefrontal processing that worked as a bulwark until then.

THAT pretty much cut us off from developing our inherent CREATIVE Abilities, as we took the Dreams our hereditary RACIAL Enemies before us, uncritically, into our Minds, and, in doing so, placed the cuckoo's egg of the Asiatic Hive Consciousness into the Minds used by the Western Soul to move FORWARD.

Hence, the Mind goes mad, and the Soul withdraws, waiting for a more fallow soil into which it should place it's Seed...

Burnham realized, on one degree, what the late Dr. Sam Francis realized, to a much greater degree; the absence of growth is death, and the CHOICE of refusing to grow is suicide, by any other name. Francis realized, way too late, that this was a deliberate process set into motion by our hereditary RACIAL Enemies, and the need for a Counter-Force was so great, and that Counter-Force would of necessity be so powerful, that is had to be, literally, Revolutionary, in the fullest meaning of that term.

As long as the vast majority of our RACE chooses the tranquilizers of medication, food, and television, over working with our Creative Heritage in the fulfillment of a RACIAL Purpose, they act as grounds to an electrical current...

My concern is SOCIAL EUGENICS.

We spend vast fortunes on "Special Education," and less than ONE PERCENT of that on "Gifted and Talented" classes, while forcing our Children to go to a public school system that is actively hostile to their RACE, and the Foundation of their RACIAL greatness.

My concern is SOCIAL EUGENICS, at the Family level, with my nephews, where I can SEE some good for my efforts.

My concern is SOCIAL EUGENICS, knowing that the Seed of RACIAL Greatness begins with th Individual, in the Framework of the Family, as the RACE is microcosm, and the RACE, as the Family in macrocosm.

Thus, my nephews are learning Judo, today, and, hopefully, Sambo, tomorrow, while NEVER AGAIN "watching" NASCAR, or, for that matter, as time goes on, television, at all.

They are learning to Create their Future, and not blindly accept the false choices set before them by our hereditary RACIAL Enemies.

SOCIAL EUGENICS - which only takes place in the Soul of one RACE, the WHITE Race.

And I will never give up.

#7 Simmons | 2007-08-18 11:32

We are at that point that biologists call an "Evolutionary Bottleneck" some will not pass their genes thru, that is life, we understand that and do not expect "magic" explanations. On the other side of these lean times a bright future awaits the next aristocracy and intellegensia who can reform and create the next social system that best reflects the Aryan mind. Even the Norse knew this before they were corrupted by fantasies of everlasting sameness of gazing upon some god "in a better place." Ragnarok is upon us even Valhalla will change and men of will shall place the next plinth for us to build on. As for sellouts of the past they were reactionaires looking to take advantage of their retreat positions, we are revolutionaires in an intellectual sense and we see a resting point instead of a sellout point before we push on.

#8 Hardric | 2007-08-18 14:02

Once again and for emphasis:

<b>The top of the idea train is RIGHT HERE!</b> . . . . Bob Whitaker

#9 CL | 2007-08-18 14:23

My grandparents bought their "last car" in the early 70's. My grandmother died in the early 90's, several cars later.

You don't have phases, Bob. You have details. Even if you do have phases, you're probably stuck with this one for the duration.

You're going to be driving something, regardless. If there's really a better car, I'll understand.

#10 Hardric | 2007-08-18 15:30

RE: <i>Seminars do not always go smoothly.</i>

Once I was in a seminar for which the topic was Algebraic Topology. We were asked to look for a proof of a particular diagram. An MIT graduate offered to provide the proof, and gave his version, but to my surprise he fell into that classical logical problem known as circular reasoning, sometimes referred to as "begging the question."

We got that squared away, but keep in mind the context in which this issue arose.

#11 Tim | 2007-08-18 16:41

Bob,

If you need a break, take a break. Shutting down the blog over a childish "stormfronterknownothing" comment is very UN-Bugs like. Teaching something as simple and as straight forward as 'race is everything' is sooo tiresome. I don't know why. I have some friends now that KNOW race is everything. BUT the fools still say dumb things about Asian IQ's etc....etc. It is like spoon feeding babies over and over again and NEVER having them grow up! Bob, you must understand this or you would no longer be in this business of helping our race. The satisfaction to me is NOT in the spoon feeding of babies but actually see one feed themselves slowly but surely. That has happened here. And because that has happened here it has started happening in unexpected places. If it weren't for BUG's Ann Coulter would NOT have mentioned the genocide of our tribe to millions of readers.

The fact that you wrote the above entry in the above tone tells me you need some time off. So take some time off. You have done good. Of course, You will miss some of us too much to stay away forever. I have noticed that once someone starts thinking about our race as OUR RACE it changes something in them and there is no going back (at least on a mental level). As Aryans, our religion is progress. And BUGS is making progress......

#12 Mark | 2007-08-18 18:55

"white trash and niggers are the same so what does it matter? Lazy and stupid in any race is lazy and stupid.

Mark

ME:

Ah,yes, what does it matter what a person's race is if he works hard and is clean?

This is where I came in."

This is NOT where you came in, but by quoting the above OUT OF CONTEXT it gives you a reason to belly-ache (again). Keep going or shut `er down, but at least stop whining and act like a man instead of a child threatening to take his marbles home. You're starting to sound like the WW2 Generation (again).

#13 Z | 2007-08-18 19:23

AFKAN, what you just said is probably one of the most important things I've read concerning this struggle. Much of it relates directly to me, however, I will not go into it here. The important thing is I just had a breakthrough. Although you were mainly speaking to Bob, I have had a major breakthrough with your words.

The point regarding the tranquilizers is right on. Our society is so sick that people actually have to be somewhat sedated to make it through the day. The family has been decimated, the culture distorted, the self worth destroyed, and the sense of purpose lost, this is no accident.

If Euroman cannot put his energy into the progress of his people, then he will put his energy into the destruction of himself.

#14 AFKAN | 2007-08-19 01:18

in reply to Z:

you wrote:

AFKAN, what you just said is probably one of the most important things I've read concerning this struggle. Much of it relates directly to me, however, I will not go into it here. The important thing is I just had a breakthrough. Although you were mainly speaking to Bob, I have had a major breakthrough with your words.

in reply:

Thanks.

I can't tell you what Hell I had to go through to recognize that the Challenges we face are of such magnitude that I truly believe a Winnowing is the only way they can begin to be resolved.

I can assure you, the Winnowing will be truly horrific.

It might be, in part, a RACE War disguised as a Cultural War.

you wrote:

The point regarding the tranquilizers is right on. Our society is so sick that people actually have to be somewhat sedated to make it through the day. The family has been decimated, the culture distorted, the self worth destroyed, and the sense of purpose lost, this is no accident.

in reply:

I have asked WHAT stops people from recognizing the plain, simple Truth about RACE that our Ancestors - our RECENT Ancestors - took for granted.

The answer is, (1) who they believe they are have so much invested in the Matrix that their very sense of Self identifies with a System established to impoverish them, and make then the New Dispossessed, and (2) they have a wall of Enablers who pretty much force them - softly and gently, if possible, and with brutal discipline, if not - to identify with their RACIAL destruction.

They literally do not realize that the destruction of their Family is the essential foundation for the destruction of their RACE; it's as if they destroy the foundation of a house, and then, for good measure, destroy the roof, as well, and then wonder why the walls don't really stop much of anything.

you wrote:

If Euroman cannot put his energy into the progress of his people, then he will put his energy into the destruction of himself.

in reply:

This comes from the adoption of the values of his RACIAL Enemies.

I have argued that conversion to White Nationalism/Western Nationalism (WN2) is remarkably similar to a religious conversion; first comes the Quickening - some event that literally SHOCKS you into the Awareness that SOMETHING is wrong in how you have seen the World, and the relationship between yourself and the World, followed by the Awakening, a process of Realization that continues forever.

A critical component of this process is to allow yourself to get mad as Hell, for that cleansing fire burns off the mist of the Illusions you have accepted, and the Persona the Mind has created to function in that world.

When I said I have not been invited to the Family Reunions for more than a decade, I never really mentioned what happened at the last one.

I simply could not take any bullshit from anyone.

I could SEE what was going on, and I could SEE, clearly, what it meant, and where it was going.

I could not tolerate it, and did not bother to pretend to.

The best example of this, by the way, is the GREAT movie, "They Live." starring Roddy Piper. If you think the aliens in human form all look like Jews, well, so did I. If you noticed hoe easily people became RACE Traitors, so did I...

I now see ALL issues using the same tool our hereditary RACIAL Enemies use - RACE, First, Foremost, Forever - and most conversations, and news stories, deal with distant effects of that one primary Cause, one way or another.

As part of the Judo training, my nephews have learned to accept anger - raw, damn RAGE - at how they came to be where they are, and how to work with that RAGE as a positive force for motivation, rather than turning it inward, where it manifests in the learned helplessness of depression.

Have no illusions - every issue either comes down to RACE, or it is simply window dressing to mask the reality of RACE as the primary force that inspires, and transforms, the Family, and the Culture, as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.

I don't waste my time in the anger of learned helplessness.

I invest that anger as a motivator, using the Light created by that anger to see things more clearly, and to do something about it, no matter how small it may seem, on a daily basis.

It is a RACE WAR, and we had damn well better learn how to play by the Rules, intelligently.

The First Step is to NOT adopt the Forms chosen for us by our RACIAL Enemies.

The Second Step is to act to build a better world, from the ground up.

I have listened to damn idiots calling for a Revolution, where they think their rusty old squirrel rifle can affect the greatest armed forces in the history of the world, and with it, they will restore the Constitution, blah, blah (another Trap, by the way).

The Answer is more along the lines of a Reformation, first in thought, and then, across all sectors of society, based on RACE - First, foremost, Forever, with RACE as the Living Bridge between Family and Culture.

If you aren't talking about RACE, then you aren't talking to me.

Oh, by the way, for those who believe we can be rational with the irrational, I ask you to consider the situation of our RACIAL Brethren in Zimbabwe, today, and South Africa, tomorrow.

Our RACIAL Enemies do not stop, and can not be negotiated with.

This is a useful Mindset for us to adopt, as well.

We can call it, oh, let's say, "Manifest Destiny."

I LIKE that!

#15 Z | 2007-08-19 02:48

"Oh, by the way, for those who believe we can be rational with the irrational, I ask you to consider the situation of our RACIAL Brethren in Zimbabwe, today, and South Africa, tomorrow.

Our RACIAL Enemies do not stop, and can not be negotiated with."

AFKAN, I certainly take this very seriously. If we look at the atmosphere in Russia before the 1917 revolution, we see an atmosphere where Russian culture was demonized harshly. Many don't realize this but the so called "White Army" was made up of almost 100% European Russians. Many people know that the leadership of the Red Army was Jewish. What they don't realize was the average worker/soldier in the red Army during the revolution was a mix of the other ethnicities of Russia. Of course there were many European Russians too, but these people were mostly made up of the cultureless urban factory workers who heard years of Judo-Marxist rabble rousing. After the revolution, then all Russians were forced into service, but my point is, that this model of racial genocide is the same thing were experiencing now.

White Americans are the European Russians and the non-whites of America act as the other ethnicities of Russia. What this demonization does is condition non-whites as well as Whites to believe that Whites deserve violence against them. The anti-white hate we hear everyday is a form of "softening up" for the major assault that will come later. On the side of the Jews, will of course be the non-whites but white Marxists as well. In fact, just like Russia most people will not even realize that they're fighting for the Jews to begin with.

The most frustrating thing about all of this, is that Whites as well as non-whites think that "white people have all the power in the world anyway." So it hard for them to believe that they're being "softened" for a future assault.

When looking back to the 1917 revolution many times I've thought to myself "didn't the Czar see this coming?" Considering the situation today and watching my fellow whites in their state of ignorance, I now understand the Czars' complacency.

#16 mderpelding | 2007-08-19 16:04

Doesn't anybody think anymore?

Check out this balderdash...

"Mark says:

Bob, your point of view on eugenics is all wet.

Eugenics has never been attempted in large enough numbers to count. The rulers did the get the best women, but there were a million times more peasants who reproduced at a much higher rate, spreading their inferior genes. If eugencis was tried on a MASSIVE level we would see fantastic and wonderful results."

Gee, lets see here. We take the most powerful males, they choose the best females, en-masse as it were, and breed to make genetically superior people.

Thats called POLYGAMY and is common in the 3rd world.

You know, the birthplace of ALL GENIUS.

Meanwhile, here in the world where real genius exists, there is basic MONOGAMY. You see, it allows for the maximum mixture of genetic material.

All these creative geniuses pop out of the mix, many times from the lowliest of places.

Meanwhile, in hubris world, committees of the "right kind of people" accomplish NOTHING.

Meanwhile, the geneticist chants...

"regression to the mean"

"regression to the mean"

"regression to the mean"

#17 AFKAN | 2007-08-19 22:07

in reply to Z:

you wrote:

"Oh, by the way, for those who believe we can be rational with the irrational, I ask you to consider the situation of our RACIAL Brethren in Zimbabwe, today, and South Africa, tomorrow.

Our RACIAL Enemies do not stop, and can not be negotiated with."

AFKAN, I certainly take this very seriously. If we look at the atmosphere in Russia before the 1917 revolution, we see an atmosphere where Russian culture was demonized harshly. Many don't realize this but the so called "White Army" was made up of almost 100% European Russians. Many people know that the leadership of the Red Army was Jewish. What they don't realize was the average worker/soldier in the red Army during the revolution was a mix of the other ethnicities of Russia. Of course there were many European Russians too, but these people were mostly made up of the cultureless urban factory workers who heard years of Judo-Marxist rabble rousing. After the revolution, then all Russians were forced into service, but my point is, that this model of racial genocide is the same thing were experiencing now.

White Americans are the European Russians and the non-whites of America act as the other ethnicities of Russia. What this demonization does is condition non-whites as well as Whites to believe that Whites deserve violence against them. The anti-white hate we hear everyday is a form of "softening up" for the major assault that will come later. On the side of the Jews, will of course be the non-whites but white Marxists as well. In fact, just like Russia most people will not even realize that they're fighting for the Jews to begin with.

The most frustrating thing about all of this, is that Whites as well as non-whites think that "white people have all the power in the world anyway." So it hard for them to believe that they're being "softened" for a future assault.

When looking back to the 1917 revolution many times I've thought to myself "didn't the Czar see this coming?" Considering the situation today and watching my fellow whites in their state of ignorance, I now understand the Czars' complacency.

in reply:

We fail to understand that, to the Jews, EVERY WAR IS A RACE WAR, and the purpose of that war is to have the White RACE destroy itself. Any RACE other than the White RACE is simply no threat whatsoever to the Jews.

A masterful work dealing with the issues of the Czar and the Jews is Goulevitch's "Czarism and Revolution," in which the author argued that the outcome of World War I was a disaster for the White RACE.

He was right.

White Russia fell to the Asiatic Hive Consciousness, and with it, Western Man lost more and more of the best of their young men.

And the Jews rejoiced...

We've been "softened up," indeed; I see so many morbidly obese White people who eat with one eye on ESPN, living their lives vicariously through adopting their RACIAL Enemies as the new heroes...

That's right.

Triple drug addicts; SSRI's, food, television.

Fine.

I have said it before, I will say it again; I see a horrific Winnowing of our RACE well within my lifetime, and the morbidly obese will suffer horribly as their drugs of choice are their only outlets for the tension they mask.

I see so many of our Institutions are well past the point where the marginal benefit exceeds the marginal cost of operating them; education, for instance, has been replaced with indoctrination.

We can NOT choose to live as victims.

We MUST see clearly how bad things really are, and we must develop Creative Alternatives to the status quo, for our Posterity, as well as ourselves.

While we can...