THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

Israel can be as racis as can be.

They do not call it racism though,

but Zionism!

Since Respectables have ceded that whites cannot have a physical existence of their own choosing we have little to go from except for you Bob. But then again Bob even you shy away from doing the beatdown on the Tom Flemings, Michael Hills, and Clyde Wilson's of the world, that need a beatdown because those wordists signed off on our physical extinction alongside those jews that haunt that nutter who posted above.

since epiphany does not post the Mantra could he/she be ISP blocked

'Simmons'

What are talking about blocking people for? Do you think our numbers are high enough that you can be selective in who you allow to participate here and on what terms?

@Coniglio

You`re damn right we can be selective in all things,and numbers has nothing to do with it.We`ve asked Epiphany more than once to knock these useless judaic one-liners off,but does he/she listen?

Nobody commented on the article

I have noticed that a number of people on here seem to think that there is some kind of requirement to eat, drink, sleep and breathe the mantra 24 hours per day.

The mantra is a tool it was not meant to be some kind of cult that prevents its users from thinking objectively. As far as I am concerned anyone who is talking about White genocide IS using the mantra.

It says 'Fighting White Genocide' at the top of the page and that is why I am here. The mantra is one possible means to the end not the end itself. The end is stopping White genocide. Personally I don't care how that happens. If it happens because of the mantra then great, if it happens because of something else that is great too. I don't care how it happens as long as it happens.

Some people on here also seem to think that they own the place and have the right to tell other people what they can and cannot say. I can tell you right now if you start silencing opinions you will get absolutely nowhere with any of this and numbers has everything to do with it. Without numbers you will never have political power and without that nothing will ever change.

If you want the idea to spread you have to give up control of how it spreads and who participates. You should be welcoming unconditionally anyone and everyone who has expressed even the slightest interest in fighting White genocide.

Paying any attention to Epiphany's N&J comments, and arguing about them, is a great example of what Bob calls "tailgating". Even this comment may fall into that category.

When we tailgate, we lose track of why we're here. This is not news. When we follow too closely to the rear-end of an anti-White's discourse ... all he has to do is tickle his brake lights and we've got a problem....

We've become more concerned with winning a point in an argument than we are about MAKING a point. We get distracted from MAKING a point that changes the shape of the battlefield into terrain on which we can win the war.

Must be something in the nature of Whites that makes them place a priority on "being right" in an argument, over the ultimate priority of winning a war.

Dungeoneer, good point.

Bob, I am doing my best to reach out to as many people as I know which isn't all that many. You wrote that Kelso put you on the A3P Board. Surely you must have contacts within A3P that will gladly take you up on your offer to pay for a mantra TV commercial for their campaign?

"Surely you must have contacts within A3P that will gladly take you up on your offer to pay for a mantra TV commercial for their campaign?"

I posted this elsewhere a couple of days ago:

Me to Byron Calvert:

"So have you contacted Bob Whitaker yet so you two can sit down and brainstorm?"

Calvert:

"No. And I haven't heard from him, either. But do him a favor, <b>if you hear that he is really going to waste money buying ads to promote the mantra, have him get in touch with me first.</b>"

Mr. Whitaker, if you see this, I've been urging Calvert that you two sit down and talk. <b>He's apparently had a lot of success getting media to pay his way in his white power record business.</b>

Some Bugsters have a personality clash with Calvert. I agree with HD. I kinda like what he is saying and i think Bob should get in touch with him. He even has said he likes Bobs approach and the Mantra. I have a feeling we could all help each other out.

So do I just hit Calvin,com or what?

You guys have got to remember that Ole Bob is OLD. He does well these days just to post on the blog. It is one thing to go Mantra in an ad that the local networks must run based on the law. And quite another to play the media roller coaster Calvert played promoting his music.

Anyone of you guys can also start applying Calverts approach/advice as well. Then report back to us.

I may call him and pick his brain on a few things for ALT News. I can at least see if any of his bag of tricks is applicable to the direction my site is going.

Thanks, Avenger!

Bob,

Calvert is someone that posts on Stormfront. He has been going back and forth on a thread with a few guys from here. That is the only way I know of to get a hold of him.

"So do I just hit Calvin.com or what?"

Lol! That captures Calvert's apparent view of himself perfectly!

He's very sharp though...his posts are immensely enjoyable and irritating to read, and he seems a very likable guy if one could tolerate his bluntness. And he can also be rather gracious and considerate. He's obviously a person with exceptional ability who cuts through crap and gets a job done. He has 5 kids too, which rates in my book.

I've thought that Mr. Whitaker and he getting together, with their very different backgrounds, would inevitably produce some new ideas.

Horus, I'm really glad you're going to contact him!

Can you guys provide a link to his (Calvert) writings? I'd like to see his approach.

Calvert could be contacted by anyone who wishes to by simply sending him a message on SF, right?

I don't understand all the amazing bells and whistles on SF, so if I wanted to reach him, I would search the site for "17th", and when the thread for the 17th seminar appears, click on one of its recent pages and he'll be there...I think I could send him a message just by clicking on his username "Calvert" there in his posts.

@Dick_Whitman:

If you follow what I just posted, I believe that when you click on his name, an option of seeing his other posts will appear, and you could see all his posts on that thread that way. It might be just as easy to locate his first one on the thread that way, and then read the thread.

His "approach" is that he's apparently been clever enough to think of ways to create media attention for his enterprise and to even have the media pay his way.

In one post he tells a funny story of how he created interest in himself on the part of a very uninterested NPR host by calling some organization and pretending to be the NPR host requesting info about "Byron Calvert," and left the number of the NPR host for the organization to call back with the info.

So the organization calls the NPR host to share info about Byron Calvert, and the host thinks, whoa, this Calvert person is a person of interest after all, and calls Calvert with a whole new attitude, etc. etc.

I just listened to an interview he did. He's a very strong speaker in that he has a good answer for everything. In this way he's like a pro-White Christopher Hitchens (uber Pink Rabbit, although I did hear him make a comment about MLK that sounded like it could have been found on VNN forum). Hitchens is extremely quick thinking and regardless of being correct factually correct or not, always "sounds" right.

As Don has dubbed it, "The Calvert thread" at SF.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t832625/

@Horus:

"Bob does NOT need new ideas."

About his message, no.

"What he (we) need is for others to jump in and go to town pushing the mantra with their new ideas."

Needing it isn't going to make it happen. Someone with successful experience motivating people might have some new ideas on how to get people to do that. Bob has obviously been a pro at motivating people, but it's a broad area of endeavor and two experienced and successful heads are better than one. My notion is not that we unload Calvert's "new ideas" from his brain, but that he and Bob, or you and Bob if Bob doesn't wish to, brainstorm and see what your two able heads spark in each other!

Such brainstorming could also produce ideas about how to reach larger audiences through actions that draw media...Calvert has been harping about the desirability of that for us on that SF thread...that has apparently been his mode of operation in his own business.

We can't expect people like him who have their own successful thing going to give it up and start bugstering. That's unrealistic. But they might be useful to brainstorm with.

"But I have no problem seeing what Calverts ideas would be to get on certain radio shows for my target audience."

That's not expressed in exactly the most positive optimistic language, but great! I don't do nearly as much as I should, and I'm ashamed that my suggestion has fallen on your busy shoulders, so I'm hoping the time you'll spend will turn out to be worthwhile.

We should always be receptive to new ideas for how to get our message out. Do we reject the methods of the Freeway Blogger because he's not on message and won't come bugster with us? Of course not.

@Horus: Point taken on the "101st time."

I'll read that good post of yours again; the part that stuck in my mind from days ago was exactly your point here, that "Appealing to rabbits will not work. You have to attract them."

I'd been posting recruitment posts on Amren and your remark made me wonder if I was wasting my time, since I didn't seem to be getting any response from Amren readers.

Maybe this query belongs on a different thread, but are you saying that our approach on pro-White sites like Amren should be essentially the same as elsewhere? Custom fitted to the subject at hand, but focusing on repeating the White Genocide idea and our other phrases? I've tried to include that, but it hasn't been my primary thrust on Amren. Do you think it should be? I'm beginning to think it should be, because the readers at Amren seem no more receptive to new ideas introduced by explanation and reason than are any other audience! (Why am I surprised, but I am).

I'm thinking now that the customary type of bugster post, with nothing additional being said other than just a link to our "where did you post the mantra today" thread, strikes a more confident pose than explicit attempts at persuasion, and might have more appeal.

I myself was not attracted here by any knowledge of what you guys were doing out there in mainstream cyber-land.

I stumbled across this site while poking around in pro-White cyber space, and was attracted that a group of people were posting more or less together. That's all I observed at first, and it's something I've long wanted, so I jumped right in and then was told there was a Mantra behind the great posts I was imitating. It took a couple of days for the idea of genocide to rest easy in my brain, but when I finally got it I liked it.

If I'd come across you guys out in mainstream cyber space, I doubt I would have tried to track you down and locate you.

So some questions I'm beginning to think about, and maybe I'll get into a discussion with Calvert about it over on SF, as well as discussion here, is what desires could I appeal to in readers at Amren that might draw them here? (Since I'm still thinking about that, I may still not be fully getting, or maybe accepting, your point yet!). The sort of question that advertising men ask themselves: what are the general motivations of my audience that I can appeal to?

Perhaps a lot of the Amren audience are like myself...a bit isolated, desirous of a little more human contact even if just in cyber-space, and would be drawn by the same appeal I felt: the opportunity to be part of a group effort while having enlarged scope for one's intelligence and creativity. If I try to work that possibility at Amren, I will be as subliminal as I can to appeal to the types who think of themselves as iron men of steely self-sufficiency even as they're near perishing of loneliness. And so on.

Aside from the Mantra, I don't think we've even dipped our toes in the huge field of motivational research. If I stick here, as I hope to, I plan to start reading in that area. I've just begun a book very popular when I was a youngster, "The Hidden Persuaders."

Sheesh! I apologize for the length of that!

"But usually for someones original ideas to work. He would have to work them himself."

I agree with that. But when you brainstorm with someone, their new ideas produce new ideas in yourself!

Don Black doesn't give much credence to Calvert apparently. The below was posted on the SF thread this afternoon...the link is acting strangely now, so I've copied it here.

And with this I think I'll STFU for awhile. Maybe I drifted into thinking that the pro-White movement was a sort of hippie commune, where everyone held hands and "shared" :)

Originally Posted by Calvert:

SF knows how to intentionally divert attention away from things

Don's reply:

Like making an annoying self-promoter who highjacked a thread about an event in which he had no part and has nothing to offer but misinformation, disappear.

I see from your moderator notes you have a history here. It's a credit to our moderators' self-control you weren't banned before now.

No, you can't quite find me by typing Calvert.com, although you can Google Byron Calvert and see what I've been up to the last couple decades. The more of Bob's stuff I read/hear, the more I wish I had been using it years ago. I know how to get mass media attention, that's not the problem. The one media project I discussed on that SF thread involved promoting pro-white music, and resulted in a feeding frenzy with everybody from Rolling Stone, Newsweek, Good Morning America, Tom Brokaw, CNN, Nancy Grace, 60 Minutes, National Public Radio, BBC and I can't remember the countless little newspapers and tv/radio stations I spoke to. That's not bragging, that's establishing that I am not talking theory and ideas, but fact. I barely scratched the surface, and did not reach every white person in America, but it was what it was.

My theory is that had I known about the mantra, I could have replaced my talking points with Bob's talking points and been even more effective.

I don't play the media game anymore...I have two little farms, five home-schooled children and my t-shirt shop/record label (tightrope.cc) keep me insanely busy. My plate is full for now. But it is still there to be done.

But my main point was that the media can easily be used to talk to tens of millions of our people. You don't need a record label, and you don't need to alter your mantra. I spent too much time correcting people who didn't get it on SF, and then I made the mistake of humiliating Don on his own website, so he kicked me off and deleted every post I made there.

re: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t832625/

I only read through this last night.

Greetings Byron.

@Meanwhiterabbit

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t832625-17/

"I post over at Bugs and those guys are doing fantastic things but there's this danger amongst some of the posters that they are turning into these irritating little "grammar Nazi" types that come into posts and "tell you off" for not following Bobs talking points in literally every single sentence"

"irritating little "grammar Nazi" types"

Now,now Meanwhiterabbit,your fellow BUGSers say what we say here in the service of staying effective against the anti-whites.

LOL Dungeoneer. Yep some posters can come over exactly that way. However we have Lord Nelson, Adelheim, Horus and a number of others who balance it all out. But hey, as you rightly point out its all about staying effective against anti-whites so alls fair in love and war.

Byron-thanks for joining. I am sure you can help.

'Byron'

I thought you had alot of useful things to say in that thread. They sounded like exactly the kinds of things we should be thinking about in order to reach a wider audience. So I would definitely be interested in hearing more about your ideas.

Byron,

Ole Bob is Coach not a debutante. He has the hide of a rhinoceros. Which means he does not ban people. He just deals out lashes in blog entry or two. The point is not to offend or insult. But to give credit where credit is due any good coach must give correction where correction is due.

Oh and he is not above liking complements. Nor he is below saying when he is wrong.

The only question Bob will ask in regards to some approach is as follows:"does this work?".

H you might want to mention that this site is not a place for someone to post their proclamation as the next Fuher or to expand the "outrage" business model.

Bob frowns upon the N&amp;J blather, and with every right to since half the internet is available to blather on and on about the outrage of the day.

Speaking from experience.

By the way Bob,

Father Francis from Stormfront is running up in TN for something. He has been going Mantra since the conference. And he wanted to talk with you. I told him to post here under the most current Blog entry.