#4 thawat | 2008-02-05 17:31
in reply to Dave:
you wrote:
<blockquote cite="">"No one can convince a person of our loyalties if he has no loyalties".
This is a statement that needs to get elevated in the whole program to dovetail with a transformation of the real underpinnings of our lives, the household level, life support, real income stuff, fundamental to any society.
BW said, "I don't do economics any more", a very important statement.
After long years of hard effort, I finally figured out government finance. That gave me a window on the economic abuses rife in our society and their role in Political Correctness, hence my hatred of public employee unions of any stripe and of those multitudinous "sleight of hand" organizations that don't call themselves unions but are unions.</blockquote>
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Yet, the very foundation of social loyalty begins with the Family, in and of itself, and then, the Family, as a microcosm of the Race, and finally, the Race, as a microcosm of the Family.
Removed from this creation of the Spirit, Wordism fills the subsequent power vacuum beautifully, especially if Wordism is a process manipulated by sociopaths. Speaking of sociopathology, particularly at the Institutional level...
you wrote:
<blockquote cite="">They are organized crime rackets pretending to be "the law". Congress is an organized crime racket as are the state legislatures. Our courts, review boards, and commissions at every level, no matter what the subject matter jurisdiction, are organized crime rackets.
It is damn hard to get it all figured out. Thinking you can educate others by getting them to discuss economics is like thinking you can create journeyman level chess players by discussing chess. Can't be done. That is why BW doesn't do economics anymore.</blockquote>
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Trying to "educate others" is, essentially, trying to be rational with the irrational.
All too often, they resent you, because your comments and analysis simply serve to remind them of the horrific traps in which they find themselves, and see themselves as permanently trapped in.
So, YOU get blamed, for trying to lead someone out of the Platonic Cave formed to trap them, BY their Racial Enemies.
I have discovered my greatest success at opposite ends of the social spectrum - uneducated hillbillies (my nephews), and some really smart guys I used to work with - managers and engineers who solved complex problems.
Everyone in the middle seems to be living in the fear of the rabbit for the carnivore, which it seems trying to come into the burrow, and has decided the best answer is to remain completely still, soft, quiet, and afraid...
you wrote:
<blockquote cite="">But you can't get from A to B in life without hoeing rows and doing yeoman stuff, it can't be wished into existence, it must nurtured through long effort, step by step. It takes vision to do that and that's why this "what you are loyal to stuff" matters. Discipline matters and discipline and loyalty are related things.
What we all share in common is that we live in a society where the levels of economic and spiritual abuses are balls-to-the-wall out of control.
I mean the abuses we all suffer under the present regime are extreme, unimaginably extreme. It is hard for anyone who has been blessed with even with even a smidgen of wholesomeness to maintain his or her sanity in this god-awful hell in which we live. I struggle everyday simply to maintain some sense of proportionality and to keep my thinking from becoming too distorted owing to all the assaults I suffer and can't avoid.
The lowest sorts of characters, meaning those with no character at all, animals really, set the standards in our society.</blockquote>
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I think this is what happens if the Initiation called the Mid-Life Crisis - actually, a Mid-Life Opportunity - is met, and passed.
You do have a horrific feeling of Aloneness, for a season, until you identify ALL issues in terms of Race: First, Foremost, Forever.
Then, you realize most of what you identified with was using you, to no good end.
And your thinking shifts from the natural self-pity of "I have been a Fool," to a mature decision to serve the best long-term interests of the Race, to the exclusion of the matters of Form.
After all, if the matters of Form work, as matters of Substance, against our Families, and our Race, then haven't we been horribly used?
And, after we realize this, and we remain with the status quo, aren't the consequences then our fault, as we go from Victim to de facto Co-Conspirator?
I watch the Lamestream Media from time to time, as I am in public places where I must listen to it, and watch it, and it is like watching the reporting from the world's largest, best-orchestrated Potemkin Village. Note, for instance, the ease with which Ron Paul has been "disappeared" from ALL reporting. He has been replaced with the latest on Britney Spears, which seems to be about the level at which most people are operating. At least they can claim to understand Britney Spears...
you wrote:
<blockquote cite="">Let me say it again: Humans that have degenerated into beasts set the standards in our society. It is the rival gangs throwing feces at each other in our jails who are setting our standards. That is the way Political Correctness and our judges and police want it. Corporate America likes it that way also.
These are the rules of official popular culture in our society:
Vulgarity is not only permitted, it is mandatory. It is particularly recommended if it assaults the innocence of children and damages and prevents their development. Nothing is allowed, unless it is demeaning and offends human dignity. Dereliction and self-betrayal are required. The operative concept is the distinction between "may" and "must". It is not, "you may be a derelict". Rather, it is "you must be a derelict", as in "required" and "no choice".</blockquote>
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The Children of the Sixties decided to commit the functional equivalent of suicide, by remaing in their self-obsessed little worlds, manifesting their hatred of American - (White RACIAL) - Greatness at all times, in all places.
Damn if it doesn't look like they have succeeded, and are trying to take the whole country down for good.
There are times I feel "Atlas Shrugged" just nailed so many issues, even as our own infrastructure literally falls apart around us...
As we become the Perverse, we worship the Perverse...
you wrote:
<blockquote cite="">We are really in something worse than in the state of slaves. It isn't that we are slaves, exactly. But the assaults of Political Correctness upon us have turned us into something lower than slaves, nonetheless. Your getting it if you can comprehend that it is possible to be reduced to something much lower than a slave, for there have been many slaves with admirable personal characters in history, and there have been slave societies that weren't that bad, morally speaking, if you look at it with your "Asian" spectacles on.</blockquote>
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This is a topic Savitri Devi dealt with, in "The Lightning and the Sun."
Remember the freeing of the slaves following the Civil War, when the freed people became sharecroppers, and were bound to the land more tightly than the slave ever was, while having to rely on their own devices for the basic necessities.
Slaves, as numerous economic analyses of slavery have discussed, were actually better off; Master had to supply them, and support them. That, in part, is why Seward said slavery had less than fifty years to go, under the best of circumstances.
Popular Sovereignty, and the Homestead Acts, did more to undermine slavery as a viable institution than all the Abolitionists ever did; sharecropping just turned the nominally "free men" into indentured servants to the bankers, and the new plantation owners, in perpetuity.
you wrote:
<blockquote cite="">What Political Correctness does to us is much worse.
American society today is simply awful, balls-to-the-wall dreadful, and it does not deserve to exist.
But that is not stating it right. It is an abomination that we must, as a matter of rescuing our very humanity, abolish.
It is in that abolition that the white race may find a ray of hope in rescuing itself.</blockquote>
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American society, as we knew it, is "Gone With The Wind."
Rebuilding a new, better America, from scratch, on the other side of What Is To Come, will be the challenge, and work, of lifetimes in which the Meritocratic Aristocracy MUST be intentionally developed, over generations.
THAT, in part, is what I am trying to do, by having a high school graduate who can not read without moving his lips to form the words, read what I consider to be the Foundational Works of the New Order, starting with Harold Covington's "A Distant Thunder."
It all starts with a Positive Theory of Race: First, Foremost, Forever.