THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

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My dog and I get along very well. We sleep together. We play together. We love each other. He eats my food.

Are we alike?

He also likes poo.

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Firstly, now that we have to log in to comment, is it still necessary to mark messages as not spam?

Bobs comment is similar to something that I have been mulling over for some time.

There is the old idea, that a computer could do what a human being could do, act like one so one cannot tell the difference, yet still not be conscious! So even though externally it would appear practically indistinguishable, that computer does not feel, does not see or hear in the manner that we do, in the manner a conscious being does.

We assume, and it is an assumption, that we all experience, fee the world and think in pretty much exactly the same manner. From initial observations, it seems that way. There is no way to get into another persons head, but the whole point of bringing up psychopaths was to demonstrate a KNOWN example where someone can appear to be just like you, yet be fundamentally different. This example shows that we are not all necessarily alike under the skin, even when we appear to be. There may be many more subtle differences that exist within our minds, differing levels of consciousness, different degrees and ranges of experience.

If we can't recognise psychopaths, then what hope do we have of recognizing any smaller psychological differences that may exist between people? What if these differences are racial in nature? When people say that we are all alike under the skin, they are presuming to know that this is so. People presumed that Ted Bundy, as Bob pointed out, was just like them. They were wrong, very wrong. Does your average joe, who cannot spot a psychopath really have the authority to claim that such differences dont and cannot exist?

There is a lot more to the mind than having a human brain. Genetically identical people think alike, very much alike. That post about twins got me thinking. I have heard many anecdotes of twins that knew when their sibling died, the moment they died. If they are close to becoming one mind, then logically, that means that they are closer to each other than they are to anyone else. Which then logically follows, that this is most likely GENETIC. Also, if one mind can be closer to its twin than another unrelated one, there is a degree of relatedness and differening degrees of seperatedness between people.

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",,,mumbo-jumbo...deemed irrelevant to running a compassionate democracy about two decades ago..."

Facts exist without regard to whether they are relevant to running any type of democracy, compassioanate or not, or, even a tyranny.

Mumbo-jumbo refers to a technical level beyond normal comprehnsion. To wit, you do not understand the data or its use.

"About two decades ago" refers to your coming of age intellectually. That precious moment was not the apex of the human condition. The world has moved on and had an existence prior to your first erection.. You probably think that you invented sex. If you did, you would not be.

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Back Bay Grouch

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Mr. Parker, the whole point is white SURVIVAL, not quibbling with the "mutiracialists" White survival is right, just because it is right. Why let "mutiracialists" say every other race should live and you and your kind should die? What kind of psycho non-white wouldn't object if you told them that they and their kind should be eliminated? We don't have to PROVE anything. Shari

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In street patois, Look for the angles." Conservatives whether respectable or not play the game without reflection even your good friend Sam Francis played by the "rules." The left made up some ridiculous mumbo jumbo and the "conservatives" predictably "shrieked" and then created a sinecure that provided a living.

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To Pain:

You're comparing an animal with a human. If you want to say non-whites are not human, then say it outright -- don't imply it by analogy.

To Back Bay Grouch:

Yes, you have a point about the 'mumbo jumbo.' That particular multiracialist is arrogant as he presumes to speak for most Americans. But the point in his commentary is that the U.S. government sometime in the latter half of the 20th century studied these facts and concluded that the differences between the races were too small to keep them segregated and to ban interracial mixing (Maybe not negligible differences, but too small to keep up the difficult and costly policies). Bob differs from the U.S. Goverment -- he is concerned the other races may be sociopathic.

To Dennis:

You say, "the whole point of bringing up psychopaths was to demonstrate a KNOWN example where someone can appear to be just like you, yet be fundamentally different. "

OK, thank you for explaining it. But this argument seems to apply only to individuals, not to collectives. If a foreign collective were indeed considerably different in a negative, threatening way, it would be obvious on it's face to anyone who would look. The differences should quickly become apparent and should manifest by naturally prohibiting the members of the different collectives from working together, living in close promixmity and having relationships with one-another.

To Shari:

Shari says, "Mr. Parker, the whole point is white SURVIVAL, not quibbling with the "mutiracialists" White survival is right, just because it is right. "

I strongly sympathize.

Shari says, "Why let "mutiracialists" say every other race should live and you and your kind should die? What kind of psycho non-white wouldn't object if you told them that they and their kind should be eliminated? "

That's Bob's Mantra. Bob's mantra is predicated on the belief that blacks would act differently to genocide against them than whites do. If whites apparently don't care enough to speak out about genocide against their race, can we assume the less-intelligent blacks would speak out?

Shari says, "We don't have to PROVE anything."

If we want to continue to be a tiny club on the Internet, then you are right.

--Al Parker

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If the leftist have everything figured out why hasent the world come to embrace all their twisted and vile ideas on human nature. Even today all their humanist garbage IS forced apon us through laws and with threats. Lies and retard science require this bully business and they know it and they are wrong.

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Al gets the good sport award.

Dennis gets the best analogy award.

Al makes a good statement about racial collectives. The reason Dennis' view holds up anyway is that we live in an age of mass media and instant communications. All humans have the ability to ape others, and right now all humans are aping whites. Everyone wears shirts and trousers, even coats and ties. Everyone wants to be rich, to buy iPods. Arabs don't ride camels anymore, they drive cars. Indians don't ride elephants anymore, they drive cars. Everybody does what we do.

Two hundred years ago, these collectives WERE very different from white countries.

But then if you go back two thousand years, whites lived in China, and whites ruled India. So we have been copied before.

As an aside: If Chinese stagnate and we were there before, then was indigenous Chinese culture 200 years a well-preserved example of Indo-European culture.

Old Chinese temples look awfully much like Norse stave churches.

Bob has never noticed this!

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When I said that we don't have to prove anything, I just meant that we don't have to prove that we SHOULD survive. Just say "anti-racist is code for anti-white." I know it's frustrating,, the mindset that so many whites have but it's gotten so ridiculous it's getting hard to maintain that mindset, and not be utterly perverse. Shari

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Al Parker, the psychopath example doesn't apply to collectives, but it demonstrates that we can be blind to such differences. I'm a believer that our mind is a product of our genetics, and since our genetics do differ on a collective level, it would therefore follow, there are collective differences in mind. These collective differences could exist, and we wouldn't know, because externally, there appears to be a similarity.

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By the way, I do actually know someone, who I'm pretty sure is a sociopath. It took me a while to figure it out, but he would on occasion show how he sees other people. He was able to appear like everyone else, but after a while, I realised that some emotions, some thoughts were foriegn to him. His view of altruism, of good will to others was purely utilitarian and economic. The idea that one would empathise with someone else, or seek to help, purely because one feel COMPELLED to do so, was quite foreign. Took me a while to realise, but this person was incapable of understanding or feeling the same compulsion to assist those in trouble.

I consider myself a quite perceptive person, and this condition of his still eluded me for a while.

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Al Parker, have you spent much time around non-Whites? The truth is that negroes and non-White latinos are morally and intellectually incompatible with White civilisation. Yes, there are exceptions but it ain't worth searchin through millions of haystacks to find a few needles.

As to the race war, it is not "fantasy", it is coming, necessary and inevitable and that makes it good. enough whites will rediscover their inner barbarian as the economy collapses and they lose their creature comforts.

Lastly, you drone on about "democracy" as if that were something worth fighting to retain. It isn't and demonocracy and multiracialism will both go the way of the dinosaur. Race is the ONLY thing about yourself that you CAN'T change and that is why it is so powerful and enduring.

Look at germany under Hitler, they achieved great things in terms of science, rocketry, cancer research, economics, etc., and by any measure the Germans of that time(1933-39) were the happiest most productive people that this world has ever seen. The germans showed the world what could be done in the absence of jews, blacks, gooks, chinks, spics, cruds, duds, muds and democracy. The real reason that we are bombarded with holohoax bullshit is to obscure the great success story that was Germany in the pre war years.

In closing, Al Parker, i will leave with a quote from Dr. Schweitzer who came to understand their true nature of the negro SUB RACE!

Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa, "uplifting" Negroes, received

the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his

death, he said:

"I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all

white men that have lived here must learn and know; that these individuals are a

sub-race; they have neither the intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or

share in any of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and bring them

the advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that we

must retain this status; white, the superior, and they the inferior, for whenever a white

man seeks to live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour him,

and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit to

this people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africa

remember that you must continually retain the status; you the master, and they inferior,

like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals, never

accept them as your social equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you."

Viva La Raza Blanca!!