THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

Bob, your writing makes me notice things. When you tell stories about YOUR uncle Bob or about Amos and Andy being canceled I immediately understand your point.

Horus takes a different approach when he talks about practical politics and things like "control points" this crystalizes concepts for me and reminds me that this is a serious business.

Now, I am not a writer like Bob. However, I can appreciate what it TAKES to write at the professional level Bob has for decade after decade after decade.

From having a deliberate and methodical approach to laying out what it IS that you want to convey to the audience. To appealing to their senses and emotions. Perhaps Bob has been doing this SO LONG that he doesn't even realize he is hitting these finer points anymore. Perhaps it is a sixth sense for him.

Effective communication is something most people struggle with their ENTIRE lives. Running your yap and mentally masturbating all over a piece of paper (or blog or whatever) is a task accomplished by anyone. There is an ocean of difference between that and LISTENING to or reading a piece of work with the absolute intent of understanding. Writing in the manner in which Bob can write and listening as if your life depended on it are the pinnacle of both ends of the spectrum in communication.

You might be in the wrong line of work if you can't at least crawl while doing each.

Ive read more electronic tech manuals then anything else Bob, some of your writing seems you have to read in between the lines. That is a practiced skill I haven't had alot of practice at but im working on it

I am with you AWR, though I don't read tech manuals. I have this unnatural desire to hear or read what people mean. If they can't manage to tell me what they mean I have no desire to listen to claptrap.

I have often found that those that claim to 'read between the lines' just seek to superimpose their presuppositions on whatever they are reading. Hence religious denominations. They all read the same Book, but they read between different lines.

I may actually be part of the lowest common denominator that speakers are all taught to write their speeches to. That is fine with me.

Ask me for feedback and then tell me that is not what you wanted to hear. I couldn't care less, it is me that has to live between these ears and not you.

Explain to me in what way you think I went wrong and then I take it to heart if it is in the lines and not between.

"As usual, I need PARTICIPATION. I do NOT need someone to make the Stormfront comment that they don't get it."

I don't mean disrespect in the present comment, Bob. I've also written that I have gotten an immense amount from both what you've spoken and what you're written, and that's it's changed my way of looking at the world. But as for your comment I'm citing, I don't get it either, frankly. If you're just saying that you don't want to be told when we don't understand you, I'm certainly willing to abide by that, but I doubt that's what you're saying by this statement, and I have no idea what you ARE saying.

I wouldn't respond except that you mention me in particular. Being told that I gave a Stormfront response, and not being able to even understand what you mean by that in this context, stings.

That's okay, but I need to give my own response to it. Even if it's a "stormfront" response.

Okay, maybe your meaning is beginning to sink in a little. You don't want these threads to be discussion threads, you want them to be imbued with the spirit of "doing," and people full of that spirit don't get hung up when they don't understand things...they just move on and "do."

On the other hand, you also wrote once that you need people who are "finicky and obsessive." That's me to a tee. I like to understand as precisely as I can what I'm doing and what I'm being told to do.

Well, okay, now that I've unburdened myself and gone back and read Bob's post again, I think I'm grasping the spirit of the thing. It's hard to explain, but it's very similar to the slight increase of understanding I feel when I think I've written an excellent post and Genseric comes along and tells me I'm tailgating and shows me in excellent fashion how to respond with a Mantra post.

What is your ideal response, Bob?

Your articles make a point. We can respond in several ways:

We can say "I believe that the point you are making is....."

or we can say tell a story about something else along the same lines, such as "It was very frustrating for my tutor when I was unable to understand her explanation of fractions"

or we can say how we will implement the point you made, for example "I will look out for evidence that those I speak with are understanding my points and adjust my tactics if I do not see such evidence"

Are you just looking for any evidence at all that we understand what you are saying? Are you looking for us to do our own thinking on points related to what you wrote?

Much of the time your points are seem very obvious once you have written them so the article reads like:

2+2 = 4

Comments?

<b>Feedback</b> is NOT "I don't get what you're telling me Doc'!"

It's called Practical Politics because, like anything else, it takes PRACTICE. <i>Participation.</i> Doctors and Lawyers alike 'practice.' Their firms are both typically referred to as 'a practice'; and for a very good reason.

A lot of what Bob writes about is only understood from the point of view of the author after a healthy foundation in DOING is constructed. As a Reader, it helps to think of the Nike mantra.

There will never be a Chilton's for what Doctors, Lawyers or Practical Politicians do. BUGS is our practice. This is NOT reading between the lines. It is a method understood only by true practitioners.

Practicing on patients takes patience.

Now, excuse me while I - as Bob likes to say - go kill something.

And it's a shift alright. You wanna know what a corporate teleconference interview at the highest levels consists of nowadays?

"tell me a story..."

Another way of saying that is "how about some porch talk, ole man..? (I'll be the listener)"

It's really a beautiful thing that I forget to appreciate all too often. I'll be damned if I am ready to try it myself just yet.

what's that cliche they always say? "Practice makes...."

Hey guys, I have a bit of a recommendation for BUGSTERS.

If any of you have the time, read Thomas Paine's "Common Sense".

http://loufreyinstitute.org/civicsconnection/assets/files/conversations/congress_and_the_public/primary_resources/Thomas%20Paine%20Common%20Sense.pdf

When you speak, like an orator, or giving a speech you are using a different part of your brain than when you are writing as well as a different type of language and communicate in a totally different way.

Each one of us is a fraction of Thomas Pane, writing to make our people understand why White Independence from the evils of "Anti-Racism" (Anti-Whiteism) is the most important thing in their lives.

Thanks for reminding us of that bob, I think we could all use a little Common Sense.

When my Grandfather was teaching me the old history of our People, he explained to me that there are different styles of communication.

The way you speak among your friends and family is different than how you speak formally before an audience. The way you write is different from how you speak, and the way you write privately is different from the way you write formally.

There are several styles of communication, and because of my Grandfather, I understood that from a young age, so that has helped me to use all the different styles of communication.

Coach, it seems to me that you write in exactly the same style that you spoke in when giving a Porch Talk.

I write in different styles, and I speak in different styles, and my style of delivery is always tailored to the audience.

I do not speak the same when I am talking to a normal every day Hillbilly, as when I have to speak to them unenlightened City Folk of limited experience. I steer away from some subjects with City Folk as life is too short for that much explaining, and the sort of thing you can discuss with City Folk would put a Hillbilly to sleep.

Years ago when you asked us all for suggestions to improve the Mantra, I did not know any way to improve it then, and I still don't today.

Hemmingway (a Loony Leftist, but a great writer) had a very sensible method for finding a way to write down something that was difficult to write.

He worked out the basic facts, then he told it as a story to different folks, over and over until he got it right, then he wrote it down, just like that, in a conversational style.

I have a variation on that: When I need to describe something that is difficult to work out and describe, I find someone that I can explain it to. They will ask questions (shows me where I need to explain it better) and I will answer until they understand what I am attempting to convey.

Then after I have it all worked out, I can write it down.

The hardest thing about writing is that it only conveys words.

Speaking on a phone there is inflection, but not in text.

In a face to face conversation there are gestures, but not in text.

English does not make this any easier, since text can be read by the reader any way that the reader chooses. Was that a question or a threat? Was that a statement or a joke? Did the writer mean that, or was it sarcasm?

It is not easy to write anything that can not be taken the wrong way.

Bob, your writing has changed my thinking. For instance, someone asked me what I thought of slavery. I laughed at them. I then went on to say,"White people didn't enslave blacks,we FREED them! If anything, they should be thanking us." I then went into full Mantra by the way.

When alien invaders attempted to begin a Communist Revolution in Russia, the Czar did not see them as much of a threat, because all the Communist Propaganda was composed of childish lies, and anyone could see the obvious Truth.

That is, if they could see what was OBVIOUS.

History and Bob have proven to us that the obvious is so common place that folks often look right past it.

Bob taught me that pointing out the obvious is necessary and fundamental to our struggle for survival against White Genocide.

I write a lot, and thanks to Bob, a lot of it is simply pointing out the obvious so that folks do not look right past it.