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MARK | 2005-12-18

In response to my "Belated Reply to Peter," Mark says,

"Bob, being in sales for 20+ years I have found that posing a statement in the form of a question makes a point go over easier than just blurting out a fact or opinion. If you make a statement YOU are making the statement, whereas if you ask a question, the answer is being made by the OTHER PERSON and that makes it HIS statment, not yours."

"For example, I could make the statment, "Black inner city neighborhoods are unsafe for white people to be in," and the person I'm talking to says to himself, "Now that was a racist statement". Off he goes without even thinking about what I've just said. "

"Whereas if I pose it as a question, "Have you ever wondered why, when you and your wife and kids are driving thru a black neighborhood and you see black guys selling drugs or walking around drinking beer and acting half out of their mind, you instinctively fear for you and your family's safety? But when you drive thru a white neighborhood — even a POOR white neighborhood, you don't fear for your family's safety? I wonder why do you think that is?"

"The person can still say, "Now that was a racist statement — but in his mind, since you've posed a question rather than a statment and have painted a series of word pictures, he has to answer it on some level, verbally or not. "

Well, Mark, nobody ever declared me infallible, least of all me.

We need a team effort here.

This is not sales, this is revolutionary politics. Your socratic advice would be good even in regular politics, but this is not regular politics. Nonetheless, yours is advice that WORKS.

That has to be useful be useful to us or we are runningalong on some kind of Wordist Bobism.

The big difference is that in sales or regular politics you have to aim at making your prospect like you.

IN MY OPINION we must aim a lot more at shock value. We should let someone know KNOW that accusing you of mass murder is not something you will tamely put up with the way The Greatest Generation so bravely did.

You cannot put MY race is the form of a question. Then you're back to the rabbit-like theoretical discussion of THE white race while every non-white would be considered nuts if he took this genocide the way we do.

The man Peter talked to sent him a nice note. Did Peter make his point?

Maybe not completely, but he has another chance. Maybe I wouldn't.

Would my attack have alienated the man so much that Peter would never have a chance a chance to make the same points more gently?

These are questions Peter will have to answer for himself.

We have here a professional salesman, a political pro, and Peter, who is out there DOING what we theorizing about.

"One experiment is worth a hundred Expert Opinions."

What we probably need is try more of your approach in some cases, but we must ALWAYS realize that our goal is to get across the few simple truths that I have spent decades hammering out.

Peter, we need you to get in here again.

COMMENTS (3)

#1 Film Industry professional | 2005-12-18 20:49

This is a very interesting line of topic, how to communicate effectively. As a Film INdustry professional in Hollywood for over 8 years who has worked on many major feature films I can tell you about how the Jews of Hollywood devise, craft and market their Anti-White products.

Hollywood really is an entire Dialogue. A sentence is begun in one film and ended in the another. So you have two major questions, each being indirectly answered. It's takes incredible security to make sure this can be pulled off, you have to own the methods of production, the cameras, the sets and even the actors so you don't loose your investment in these Broken Dialogue Propagandas I call them.

I'll contribute more if I see this helps ouf WhitakerOnline.org.

Thank you for your time.

From inside the corrupt Jew film industry called Hollywood.

A White Nationalist in the system.

#2 Mark | 2005-12-19 00:17

"This is not sales, this is revolutionary politics."

Bob, in sales we have an interesting belief taht EVERTYHING is sales, meaning, if we are arguing a point -- even though we are not getting paid for it in monetary terms -- we are still selling our ideas. The payment comes, in our case as white nationalists, in the conversion of another lost soul to our side.

BTW, I didnt' mean to sound like I was criticiszing your way of debating. I was just putting in my two cents worth at how I change people's perspective in a "conversational sales" approach. I like for people to say what I want them to say because it comes from their mouths. As they say in sales, "If I say it they can deny it -- if they say it, they have to accept it."

#3 Peter | 2005-12-19 16:32

I saw the man yesterday inside church before we went home. Two nice old ladies came by to listen, because they "like history so much." I'll try to give you a summary for you to think about. I am including longer details so you get a clearer picture.

As I was speaking to the man, I recalled that he hadn't slung the Nazi thing at me, but used it to explain why HE avoided racial loyalty. This is HIS fear. I decided to use your response anyway. He said, no when he thought white loyalty would lead to killing, he didn't mean that I was the kind of man that would do that. Because I believed him, we were in a church with excellent acoustics, I have the loudest speaking voice known to man, and the two old ladies and others were listening, I decided it would be bad to go on the attack.

I did, however use most of your arguments (multiculturalism, genocide, the PC religion). He REALLY liked your arguments, since they were phrased just like his own thoughts and he caught the good humor in them.

However, the trick may be tailoring effective arguments to the situation, and seeing what is the central questions in the other man's mind. I ran through a litany of other answers to his objections. I said racial genocide is murder, but love cannot be hate, love does not lead to killing, race is part of God's creation, man is created in God's image, etc...

But the central issue was his fear. I have encountered the identical fear in both liberals and conservatives and it all comes down to the PC version of WWII, the Jews' great blood libel, which covers up their own genocidal crimes against humanity.

Fear does not well respond to reason. The fear had already led to a rationalization: that the only real race is the kingdom of God. I said that this was much like the gnostic heresy (he knows quite a lot about that and the problems it has led to in American religion), that Jesus came down into history to make our lives better now, before we die, but countering what he said does not work because the real issue is his fear.

Actually, though the conversation was very encouraging. Here is a good man and intelligent, who probably represents the overwhelming majority who think just like us but are waiting for a strong man (or anything viable) to come along and show signs of success. And the masses will through their weight in.

He told me, too, that when he was first hired as the legislative aid on the staff of the assemblyman, he was asked at some kind of a board meeting what he thought was the most important issue of the age. His answer: race. When he was met with total silence, he knew he had hit upon the right answer. But his fear kicked in, too.

So, the only thing I could think of to address the issue of fear was to return to the Scotch-Irish. He was interested in a bit how their history began as Anglo-Saxons in the old English kingdom of Northumbria. The two old ladies listening liked that. (One has red hair.) He accepts his heritage with pride but is guarded because of his fear that ethnic pride leads to killing.

At some point when I first talked to him, he had said UNguardedly, that he did believe there was one race that did deserve extinction, but at that point, he looked terribly embarrassed and I did not twist the knife. I can only guess what he meant.

In any case, I can't say I have had a conversation like this before. He is fascinating to listen to. He had interesting things to say, such as: Westerners living in the dry West developed strong bodies, but weak minds (and Northeasterners have weak minds and weak bodies). I said he hit the nail on the head. He often has long friendly conversations with people after the service, not surprising for a man who used to travel around a district talking to strangers.