THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

DAVE | 2007-03-20

Now I can pose Dave's uncomfortably accurate assessment of me, now that the piece below, "Shari, Ask Sarge," will show how I agree with him in a way.

Dave:

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MrWebb,

Bob's Blog is about one simple, profound, and true idea: EVERY institution, without exception, is a racket. "White nationalism" is no less a racket than "political correctness". Anti-Semitism is no less a racket than Judaism. A plague on ALL those houses! Bob says.

The only true power in the world is the ability to grasp this truth. The only power ANY racket has over ANYBODY is the power the ignorance of its victims grants it. A racket that is SEEN THROUGH has no power, by definition. The worldly power you're speaking of is, quite literally, an illusion. See through it, and it's gone.

And in this, Bob is profoundly correct. He has seen behind the curtain. He has paid for this insight with blood. He has paid for this insight with loneliness.

What Bob doesn't understand is that no more than a TINY group of people will ever understand this. He understands even less that probably no more than a tiny group of people SHOULD understand this, even if that were possible. The masses must be LED. That's what they want, and that's what they need. For these, illusions are necessary. All you can hope for is that the illusions by which they live are good for them, not bad.

Nothing horrifies Bob more than the thought of LEADING his people in order to save them. Bob wants a group of people he doesn't HAVE to lead. Bob wants a group of people who would spit in his face if he even TRIED to lead them. Bob thinks that his crucial, true, hard-won insight, that any so-called worldly "power" or "authority" is nothing more than an ILLUSION and a FARCE, can be spread to the masses like a gospel. He thinks it can be popularized. He thinks it can be spread by spamming newsgroups with mantras. But he's wrong. There is no royal road to what Bob knows. Anybody who wants to know what Bob knows must pay the price Bob paid. Bob can't pay it for us, as much as he'd like to. Bob isn't Jesus.

Bob desperately believes we Aryans are too good to be led by ANYBODY, much less himself. And that's a great compliment. But he's wrong. What's more, it's an injustice. It's like leaving a tiny baby in a desert, explaining to the baby that anything of his own flesh and blood should be capable of fending for itself.

A race is not defined by skin color. It is not a mass of people with a certain mix of haplotypes. Rather, a true race is a tiny, burdened, race-bearing nobility that is willing to rule, with love and benevolence, over its kinfolk. If that nobility abdicates this responsibility with the excuse that any such leadership is a fraud and shouldn't be necessary and is below the dignity and intelligence of everybody involved, then only one thing will happen. The abandoned task of leading that people will be eagerly taken up by its racial enemies, and that people will be led to their physical extermination. That is, of course, what is happening to our people now.

COMMENTS (4)

#1 AFKAN | 2007-03-20 15:39

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The Artist Formerly Known As Nobody replies to Dave:

you wrote:

Dave:

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MrWebb,

Bob's Blog is about one simple, profound, and true idea: EVERY institution, without exception, is a racket. "White nationalism" is no less a racket than "political correctness". Anti-Semitism is no less a racket than Judaism. A plague on ALL those houses! Bob says.

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Savitri Devi said religions had become "rackets to bluff the fools."

She was right.

The irony is that we have become servants of our Creations; the Institution created for one purpose will attempt to become immortal. The example of religious institutions, states, or corporations, all come to mind. They then demand that we serve them. Rich Zubaty has a great phrase - "Corporations Are Vampires."

While I disagree that "White Nationalism is no less a racket that political correctness," if only because WN puts its RACE cards on the table, while PC keeps its hidden in the shadows, until it has the power of their police state to enforce them.

Always, Institutions degenerate, and become vampire-like, seeking immortality long after they have lost the spark that called them forth. Hitler was beaten in 1945; why do we still garrison Europe with our NATO forces? Institutional survival.

Regardless, and this is why I admire Yockey, RACE is ALWAYS operating, either implicitly (Africa), or explicitly (demonic JEWS and White Nationalism).

Dave wrote:

The only true power in the world is the ability to grasp this truth. The only power ANY racket has over ANYBODY is the power the ignorance of its victims grants it. A racket that is SEEN THROUGH has no power, by definition. The worldly power you're speaking of is, quite literally, an illusion. See through it, and it's gone.

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Solzhenitsyn saw through the Forms of Soviet JUDEO-Communism, and that power remained; it simply shifted Forms, and flowed into a more opportune Form. Remember, the Russian Revolution destroyed all of the churches in Moscow but one; not one synagogue in the COUNTRY was touched.

It has taken most of a century for the (Western) Russian soul to arise from the ashes, while the demonic JEWS simply took all of the money, and all of the MATERIAL resources, while they could.

Might it be that the Russian Soul has called for and inspired Putin and his associates?

And, that materialistic Power remains; Solzhenitsyn DID suffer the Gulag Archipelago.

THAT is the one world; we are trying to build another Kingdom on this one's foundations.

Dave wrote:

And in this, Bob is profoundly correct. He has seen behind the curtain. He has paid for this insight with blood. He has paid for this insight with loneliness.

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We all have, and we will continue to do so for some time to come.

When my family uninvited me to the Family Reunion because I addressed all social issues in the framework of RACE, writ large, you do see the Truth.

Dave wrote:

What Bob doesn't understand is that no more than a TINY group of people will ever understand this. He understands even less that probably no more than a tiny group of people SHOULD understand this, even if that were possible. The masses must be LED. That's what they want, and that's what they need. For these, illusions are necessary. All you can hope for is that the illusions by which they live are good for them, not bad.

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This Insight wins First Prize.

The French Revolution was the triumph of "Democracy." The French Revolution has succeeded in America, as well.

People do not want to know The Truth, for it (1) reminds them of how deeply they have been lied to, and (2) how helpless they believe they are to deal with the lies, or the liars. As in "The Matrix," they would just as soon go back to sleep.

The tremendous cognitive dissonance between what their Minds tell them, and what their Minds have been TOLD to tell them ("How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?") has produced a situation where more than HALF of the Adult population in America are on prescription tranquilizers. They literally can not face the "Real World." The telescreen tells them predatory jungle savages are their equal, and must be given special compensation until they have identical outcomes, and their children are placed as human sacrifices to the triumph of the French Revolution (EQUALITY). "Up the meds!"

Dave wrote:

Nothing horrifies Bob more than the thought of LEADING his people in order to save them. Bob wants a group of people he doesn't HAVE to lead. Bob wants a group of people who would spit in his face if he even TRIED to lead them. Bob thinks that his crucial, true, hard-won insight, that any so-called worldly "power" or "authority" is nothing more than an ILLUSION and a FARCE, can be spread to the masses like a gospel. He thinks it can be popularized. He thinks it can be spread by spamming newsgroups with mantras. But he's wrong. There is no royal road to what Bob knows. Anybody who wants to know what Bob knows must pay the price Bob paid. Bob can't pay it for us, as much as he'd like to. Bob isn't Jesus.

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All worldly powers and authorities might well ULTIMATELY be "illusions," and "farce(s)," but when the traffic cop hits the lights, you damn well better pull over. Until we enter a state of Consciousness well in advance of where we are, the Path of Wisdom consists in larger part of SEEING the Truth, and dealing with it intelligently - not as the trained victims fifty years of CONservative indoctrination has taught us, but as people who can bend when we must, until, like the willow, we become a wall against the wind.

This takes a lot of personal responsibility, and it is not merely responsibility to yourself, or even your Family - which might well disown you along the way! - but to Something much greater than you are, and this is the RACE.

Dave wrote:

Bob desperately believes we Aryans are too good to be led by ANYBODY, much less himself. And that's a great compliment. But he's wrong. What's more, it's an injustice. It's like leaving a tiny baby in a desert, explaining to the baby that anything of his own flesh and blood should be capable of fending for itself.

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All too true.

It's one thing to have a map; it's another thing to have a compass that moves with activity to make sure you are heading in the right direction. After all, your map is but part of a larger map, and the compass - the Guiding Principles - is ACTIVELY pointing you in the RIGHT direction. After all, suppose the map is wrong? The compass isn't...

Dave wrote:

A race is not defined by skin color. It is not a mass of people with a certain mix of haplotypes. Rather, a true race is a tiny, burdened, race-bearing nobility that is willing to rule, with love and benevolence, over its kinfolk. If that nobility abdicates this responsibility with the excuse that any such leadership is a fraud and shouldn't be necessary and is below the dignity and intelligence of everybody involved, then only one thing will happen. The abandoned task of leading that people will be eagerly taken up by its racial enemies, and that people will be led to their physical extermination. That is, of course, what is happening to our people now.

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The Great Challenge before us is to start where we are, and be what we want to world to become. By definition, this means we must transform ourselves into the Founding Traditional Aristocracy of the Society to come; the restores and co-Creators of New Traditions, if you will, with apologies to Evola.

And, while "Anti-Semitism" has its place - remember, the "Semites" are anti-Christian - it is no less important to recall that a dualistic universe has demons as well as angels.

I have said it before, and I will say it again - my opposition is not JEWS, per se. It is JUDAISM - the JEWISH RACIAL INSTITUTION - that uses Jews as nodes for its work, even as Satan uses demons as nodes for his work.

JEWS ARE DEMONS - simple as that.

THEY act and think RACIALLY, first, foremost, forever, while tgey actively deny us the right to even conceive of ourselves as a RACE.

If that isn't demonic...

What is?

#2 mderpelding | 2007-03-20 17:53

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A fine bit 'o prose I say.

But...some good stuff to mine.

Yes, in the end, a small group of people control the others.

Coercion is allways involved. Or force,if you prefer. There are three components that I can see.

1)Physical violence.

2)Economic violence.

3)Mental violence.

Leadership in most societies relies on each of these components in varying degrees.

Those with the best ability to understand and control these three components will exercise the most POWER.

Those with a monopoly on these three components will have absolute power.

A stable government relies on a balance amongst the three components.

If you weaken one of these "legs", leaders will compensate by increasing force levels in the other legs. Think prison, sanctions, hate crime laws.

If you wish to transform or "evolve" a society, you attack all three components.

Think the "civil rights" movement.

Change things, but don't upset the applecart too much. Conservative.

If you want to radically transform society, you attack one component and destroy it utterly.

This destabilises the existing status quo. Radical.

Our enemies' weakness lies in their conservatism.

We have to be truly radical. That means destabilization.

The weak component is the reigning powers' monopoly on mental violence.

This is Bob's point.

So lets concentrate on what needs to be done. And if need be, argue over that.

But never, NEVER, blather on about "truth" or "belief" or "morality". Or "virtue".

Leave those words to the metaphysicians and theologians.

#3 MrWebb | 2007-03-20 19:30

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I'm not about to go through all the stuff that Nobody went through to respond to Dave. There's not enough sense in what he had to say to respond to with any effort.

Every institution is a racket, he says. That's nonsense.

That's not enough. Then Dave goes on to tell us what the only true power is. For God's sake what complete nonsense!

Then comes a dissertation on illusion which is so far off the mark as to be embarrassing.

All this started when I mentioned that what was necessary for success in Bob's campaign is to neuter the Mainstream media/Corporate media. Now Bob and his endorser want me to believe that the Mainstream media/Corporate media has no power, i.e., it's an illusion. To say that this notion is misleading would be a gross understatement. "See through it and it's gone," says Dave, referring to the Mainstream media/Corporate media and its power to influence the overwhelming majority of the people in our country. Well, the people are not "seeing through it" at all. If they could see through it you would have a whole lot more people in your column. Pseudointellectualism will not win this battle.

Dave says that "the masses must be led." Well, they are being led. Just not by Bob and the people on this blog. Think mainstream media/corporate media. That's your clue. That's the force that is leading the masses and surely Bob Whitaker knows it. This is the force that you have to do business with and if anyone tells you otherwise I say you are not being told the facts of life.

To suggest that anyone at anytime should live from illusions is bad advice. If Bob taught any of you to live from illusion you are getting bad advice.

Dave, if you don't think and Bob Whitaker doesn't think that the Mainstream media/Corporate media has exerted and is exerting its enormous POWER to wash the brains of the overwhelming majority of the people that you would like to have in your camp, then, in my opinion both of you have missed the boat completely. My thought is that anyone would have to be blind to not see that. Just turn on your television set and watch the minute-by-minute manipulation of the minds of the American people. If you don't think that's your enemy you don't know what an enemy is and there's not much chance you'll ever find out.

If you want to call this "surrender" and "a defeatist attitude" as opposed to identifying a fact of life then that is your right. But in doing so I would have to disagree with you completely. If Bob Whitaker ever told me that the Mainstream media/Corporate media is some kind of minor opposition to his campaign I would have to abandon him altogether. In doing so I would doubt that he was even sincere in his assertions.

MrWebb

#4 Trager Smith | 2007-03-30 16:34

But a race *is* identified with its haplotypes. It's the whole population, not just the ones you approve of. What makes Whites unique is having a critical mass of courageous truth seekers. Bob once said that our sometmies blond and red hair and blue eyes made us more visible to each other. From this throwaway remark, I developed what I've called the Maureen Dowd Theory of Western Civilization. Maureen is the flaming red-haired humorist columnist for the New York Times.

My idea is that blond and red hair and blue eyes started out as genetic adaptations to climate but that their numbers greatly increased by Darwin's other process, sexual selection, that is, by becoming more attractive, you get more mates. This can lead, as in antlers to results that may be counterproductive to the group but not to the individual. It is a form of natural selection, though, not an alternative to it.

Well, there certainly seems to be much more blond and red hair and blue eyes than narrow selection for climate would warrant. Bob's thought is that we became more visible to each other. I add that we see one another as individuals more acutely than other races do. We practice monogamy more and we are more objective about the world as well.

These three factors spiraled and, in time, there was a critical mass of objectivists. Not that the sullen masses did not resent this. They did then, and they do now. But their resentment has been muted, in comparison to that of other races. *Our* masses provided what Richard Swartzbaugh in another throw-away remark called "friendly terrain."

Go ahead a write depricatinly about the masses if you wish. But you should also realize that primates have bigger brains than the physical environment would warrant because groups that cooperated socially left more descendants. Coon called it evolution by social adaptation, as opposed to evolution by environmental adaptation.

This process was greatest in man. The odd thing is--Rushton is right here--the Far Easterners have bigger brains than we do, but they use it mostly for social purposes. The Wisdom of Confucious is mostly about table manners, not what we in the Occident would call philosophy.

Our difference is this accident of hair and eye color adaptation that led to individualism and objectivity. It is the objective world that matters. Now, it's true that animals that perceive the physical environment better will leave more descendants, other things being equal. But they are not equal, for brains consume about six times as many calories per ounce than the other organs do. Just being right about the outside world pays, in other words, only up to a point. Now in those old days, there was no science to fit observations into. Today there is, as it was pioneered by truth seekers, those few who cared about truth. They were less hounded by the masses than whatever truth seekers appeared in other races suffered.

In time, this *scientific* quest for truth paid off. If Whites were to be raptured into Heaven, no doubt some science would continue among the more intelligent races or subraces. They would not move back to the equilibrium of Confucious, but they would move backward enough so that they would stagnate, if there were no Whites around to keep things progressing.

We are our forward thinkers and we are our masses, too. Our masses provide the friendly terrain.

Moral: pay attention to throw away remarks.