#18 Lord Nelson | 2011-11-20 14:26
"Churchill was surprised and hurt and said so at length"
Serves that IDIOT Churchill right!
I am a big Amerfile. And in my opinion. Not only were the American founding farthers among the greatest people who ever graced Gods good earth. But America winning the war of independence was one of the best things that has ever happend. However, if Churchill had botherered to read up on, and more importantly, had actually understood, what REALLY happened in the build up to, and during the war of independance. He would have realized exactly what was coming at the Yalta Conference. And the decades following WW2
The whole role of the European powers in WW2 is that of useful idiots. But with Briton playing the biggest useful idiot of them all. Unlike countries like France and Poland. Briton had plenty of time to pull back from the abyss. But under Churchill, Briton throw that opportunity back in Germany and Hitlers face.
As I understand it, Briton supposedly went into WW2 with it's empire to protect Poland. We came out the other end bankrupt. And with Poland along with half of Europe under the boot of the soviet communists. Who then went on to murder around 28 million innocent Europeans. While the other half of Europe including Briton fell under the dominance of the USA. The USA may have been a good country. But it was also a country that was understandably, about to enjoy the biggest power trip that was ever handed to any country in world history. And we Europeans only have ourselves to blame.
I still remember as a young kid back in the 1970's when the UK TV News was full of American Generals talking 'seriously' about fighting a "limited nuclear war in Europe".
The idea was that if it ever kicked off between the USA and Russia. Over say, a country like Cuba, that was just 90 miles off the coast of Florida. Then the USA would go ahead and Nuke cities like Warsaw and Prague. This would really p@ss off the Russians who would retaliate by Nuking say, Rome, Paris and Vienna. At this point the Americans would have no choice but to 'glass parking lot' every major city in Eastern Europe. The Russians would then do like wise to London, Stockholm and the rest of western Europe.
To an alien it may appear insane to vaporise historic cities like Rome, Prague, and Vienna etc.. Just to try and save the "Great Workers Paradise" and some 50 year old concrete sky scrapers. But every damn thing that ever comes out of WW2 is completely insane.
"And we Europeans only have ourselves to blame".
In my opinion. Any Brit who still believes that this was "our finest hour" is an even bigger idiot than Churchill was.
It's easy to see why a high born member of the British establishment like Churchill would be obsessed with the idea of ruling over an empire, just like other members of his class had done before him. But you will find that the average Brit, including those who were alive at that time, really could not have cared much less about it.
The general American interest in the British empire is much harder to understand. I even had an American friend try to tell me that the reason my namesake 'Lord Nelson' was a great man, was because he led what was then, the biggest and most powerful damn navy in the whole world. Just like the US navy is today. The crazy thing was he actually thought he was paying a compliment. Any Brit or even most Europeans could easily see how that statement was not only untrue, but actually insulting.
For thousands of years the phsyc of the British people (not necessarily the ruling class) has ALWAYS been that of a small island, off the coast of a much larger and more powerful continent. Always has been. Always will be.
WW2 is easily the biggest and stupidest disaster in European history. And it's consequences are still unfolding. But for me, it all seems to have gone wrong for Briton around the 14th of October 1066. That's probably when Churchill's and the rest of our idiot elites ancestors got here.