A USEFUL EXCHANGE | 2006-05-09
I have been spending a good deal of time on the "antis" section in Stormfront.
One British anti wrote in what she called polite and to the point comments.
This exchange shows some quick ways to deal with anti rhetoric:
Originally Posted by witchhuntergeneral
First of, let me introduce myself. I am English, white, have blue eyes, am athletic, tall, and am doing pretty damn well in my studies if I say so myself. And do I consider myself superior in any way to anyone else on this planet? NO I DO NOT.
*** Everybody considers themselves supreior to somebody. You, for example, consider yourself superior to "racists," a term you do not define.
Please don't assume that I regard you all as ignorant or barbaric. I know that the "skin head" image that white supremisis groups get is mere media spin. Yet when I stumbled across this site I was bemused as to what would drive seemingly ordinary white men and women to congregate on a forum and spread racial hatred.
*** I have found in my long life that someone who accuses other people of lying all the time is NEVER a person who takes the truth seriously.
*** You wouldn't trust someone who kept calling everybody a "liar."
*** By the same token, someone who accuses others of having no motivation but "Hate" is certainly someone who considers hatred to be a routine motivation.
*** In other words, know thyself.
I'm sure you'll deny that you are spreading this feverently, but I feel there are some pretty radical posts on this site. Don't get me wrong; I'm sure some of you had had traumatic experiences with minorities in the past, and you feel genuinely threatened. Why, just the other day an Asian fellow leaned out of his car window and called me a "white cu*t" as I rode by on my bike, having done nothing to him. Yet do I feel contempt for him, or any Asian race? Or any race for that matter? Of course not!
*** I have spent my entire life around blacks. We Southerners do that, while others theorize about it. I have also spent a LOT of time in Africa.
*** You take the general white attitude for granted, and you do not examine it.
*** Like other whites, you don't give a damn what colored people think of you, but you assume that colored people worry day and night about what we say about them, hence your idea of "Hate" being part of our thought pattern.
*** You don't realize it, but you are saying is htat they have every right to get together and complain about us, but our sayiing bad things about them is CRUEL.
I'm not some far left winger or minority sympathiser or anything, I'm a regular guy. I think rap music sucks, fundamentalist Islam should be stamped out, and the idea that we must all be politically correct 100% of the time frankly tedious. Yet this doesn't mean I feel the need to segregate from certain people. Some of my best friends are minorities, and they are no different from you or me.
*** Then why do you assume they have a valid objection to our remarks but you shouldn't worry about theirs?
Basically I just wanted to know what REALLY motivates you to congregate on this site. And don't give me that hogwash about declining caucasian birth rates. There are millions of us. We populate the richest countries in the world, and minorities have little political or economic power. And those that do show prowess in their field of work. They are adept at what they do and deserve it.
*** It is neither polite nor to the point to refer to a concern on another person's part as "hogwash."
Before I sign off, I have a few criticisms to make. I have read some of the ideologies and theories on here, and find many to be hypocritical. I simply cannot wait for the responses to the questions I pose:
1. If so many of you white Americans believe that minorities have their own countries to go back to, and therefore should, than you yourselves are hypocrites. As descendants of European settlers and colonists, by your own logic you have Europe to go back to. How can you make a claim to the land over minorities? Because you've been there longer? Then technically America belongs to... The red man! Native Americans! You have no right to claim the land over anyone. Everyone in, or everyone out. Deal with it.
*** All nations are created by immigration.
*** All nations are destroyed by immigration.
2. Secondly, the idea some white Americans hold that they are "racially pure". White Americans, as I said above, are a mixture of Dutch, Englsih, German, French, Irish and who knows what else, from Europe. Why, you're just a bubbling pot of different nations! Racially pure? I think not! Besides, what a silly, old fasioned idea that is. Embrace your fellow man!
*** Actually, no one has any trouble whatsoever defining "white" when it comes to blaming us for things. You just referred to white Americans. You couldn't do that if this were the myth you talk about.
3. Thirdly, if you regard white people, particularly Nordic or Germanic peoples as top dogs in the race chain, then consider:
The fact that the Romans (I understand you don't consider Italians to be "truely" white either) wiped the floor with the Germanic tribes countless times through history. As we all know, Romans were better educated, more technologically advanced, and superior in warfair. The Germanic tribes (though blond and pure I'm sure they were) were barbaric and unsophisticated. On what grounds can you declare these people a "master race"?
*** There is difference, too subtle for one who is as little prone to self-examination as you seem to be, between decalring a master race and wanting your race, those whites you refer to as white Americans, in case you forgot, to SURVIVE.
*** You have tacitly joined the camp of those who refer to any white person who is concerned about survival as anaziwhowatnstokillsixmillionjews.
Similarly with the Crusades. You can't get more black against white. Slowly but surely, time and again the white man was beaten back to Europe by the victorious Arabs.
I don't mean to insult anyone, I'm just curious as to what your responses will be. Also, I find anti-white racism to be hardly offensive. The word "honky" is just hilarious. It does not have the cruel edge that the word "nigger" does. By taking our knocks as a race, and then having the pride and respect not to retaliate with more racism, we better ourselves. WE retain the moral high-ground. Now stop being racist!
*** Once again you are showing white supremacism. Noe of us care much what non-whites think of us, but you assume we are evil to express our opinions of them.
*** In the real world, while you are blaming us for hateful statements here, you would deny that you are in the same camp with people who send us to prison in your country for our opinions.
*** Do a little self-analysis. Those of us you call "racists" without botherting to define the insult may have something to teach you.